SPEAKER_00 0:00

I'm 27. I've had diabetes since I was nine years old. My first pump was an omnipot, hated that thing. I did not like it because it was just like a big lump on me. And I'm in school, I'm a kid. So people trespass me and comes off. I got diabetes. And my mother, my sister, they were like almost 300 pounds each. And like because of my diabetes, they changed. And the people around me changed because they saw I had to be different. So sometimes, like, I look at it like a blessing with side effects. That's what I call it. It's a blessing, it's a blessing with lifetime side effects because I have to be in tune with my body so much.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

And we can all find gratitude. I can still walk and run and play. I'm so grateful for that. You know, type 1 diabetes is hard, but it it's something I can still live with. It's not a death sentence as long as I take good care of it.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

My doctor's like, thumbs up, and I'm like, you are not living in my body. It's not, it's like this. And I I have no control over it.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

It's like we in our group, as you've experienced, we hold ourselves to a much higher standard than the medical system does. Or the medical system's like, hey, you're doing good enough.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

You're still alive.

SPEAKER_02 1:11

And you're like, that's not, that can't be the goal. Yeah, it can't be the goal. And then we're coming and we're like, how do I get an A? And they're like, I don't have time for you. You're doing great. Just go on.

SPEAKER_03 1:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:23

Keep going and keep up the fight. All right. Well, super excited to have you on with us, Trayvon. And I know that there's a lot of people watching that I would say either feel hopeless or just feel lost with type 1 diabetes. And I'm really excited to talk about your story a bit. Um, to give them some background, can you let them know maybe a little bit about yourself in terms of how long you've had type 1 diabetes? Are you on a pump or injections, that sort of thing? I'm 27.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

I've had diabetes since I was nine years old. Um I am currently on a pump um tandem X1, X2, X2, Slim, X2, um, to be exact. Um yeah, I've I've I've had it since I was nine. Um it's been more so a um been more so like I would say a slow learning growth. I mean a learning curve. Um, well hard learning curve at first. Um I remember when I first got diagnosed, uh I'm I'm we I was a weird kid. Uh so I wanted, I went when they told me that I had diabetes, I had this kind of like weird, I wouldn't say obsession, but like uh like let's say I got sick and I had to take like medicine, I would sometimes get excited about that medicine. So I I thought I was gonna have to take pills. And I remember when they brought me shots, it was like a shot, like a needle and stuff, and I was like, I was so focused on I thought it was gonna be a pill. I I know that sounds so weird. Like my parents, they're good parents, they didn't do anything crazy, but it was just me. I was really weird. And I remember that day, and I I started thinking about like how like my life was gonna change, and they're walking me through things, and my mother's he's over there sad. And I'm thinking about, man, I thought this was gonna be like a different type of medicine at nine years old. Um, but I don't have much family around me that has type 1 diabetes. Everyone has type 2, and that kind of runs normally as far as just America standards. A lot of people have type two, and as well in like the African American community, um, a lot of people I know, older people, they have type two. Um, so like it's more so like they they thought I had the same thing, and it was not. Um, and my mother, she was like superwoman, and she just went and was like, everybody in this household is gonna change. Like no more, no more like uh soda, no more any of that, like crystal light and all that stuff. And you know, my my my sister, my mom, and my dad, everybody is kind of like sad about it, but I appreciate it. My mother made me, um, she she made me feel seen and loved. And I think that helped with my journey of learning more, at least about it, and being more inclined to not look at it too, too much um as a complete hindrance to my life.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Man, that is, I mean, amazing from your mom just to set that standard from day one, right? Of like we're all changing, we're supporting Trayvon and making sure that we can do whatever we can to take care of it. On the injection side, I don't think any nine-year-old wants shots. So I totally get that. And you know, if you're used to your family being type two, maybe you've seen them take pills for diabetes, and you're like, oh yeah, I can do that, right? Yeah, yeah. And I was 19 when I was diagnosed, and I still didn't like the shots that I was like, what forever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's tough. But um, you mentioned it while you're on tandem, I'm on the same pump as you, so tandem T Slimax 2, which I love. That's super fun. Have you been on a pump the the majority of your time with diabetes, or did you switch over recently? What's that?

SPEAKER_00 5:18

Um when I was I started out with shots because um insurance reasons. Um I think it was just cheaper at the time. Um, so we started off with uh, I think, yeah, the shots, and I would move from pins and violes and syringes and things like that. Um and I remembered that my my endocrinologist, maybe around, I'll probably say middle school-ish or end of middle school. So that's uh that's uh probably maybe like 12, 11, 12, something like that, um, wanted me to start looking at pumps. We we had insurance coverage and things like that. Um, and uh I remember tandem was still in development. I didn't know it was what was tandem, but they wanted, they asked me if I wanted to be like a like go to the it was like a they did it at camp and there was like some diabetes camp, and they wanted they had certain kids go and they wanted to try it like for like during that camp time since it would be a little bit safer because they're around a whole bunch of nurses and people who are specifically aware of diabetes. Um, this was before I knew tandem was tandem. Um, so uh it was like a little black box, literally looked just like how it looked now. Um, I didn't get to try it, however, but um that opened my eyes up to like pumps that they said I was gonna be able to do how much of like automation things and things like that. It was like kind of cool. Um my first pump was an omnipot, hated that thing. No, no shot, no, no, no, no, no blood on them, but I I did not like it because it was just like a big lump on me, and I'm in school, I'm a kid, so people brush past me, it comes out like I go to the nurse again, and I'm also thinking like my mom is like these things are expensive, and like it'll just grow from trees, and I don't want her to uh you know be upset or all that. So um, but yeah, I think I'll probably been to answer your question. I know it took a while, but answer your question. I've probably been on a pump since maybe like 13, 12, something like that. So it was kind of like early on, I would say.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

Um yeah, you went through the the dark ages with CGMs and pumps and all that too, then I remember how far we've come, you know. Um actually on that topic though, aside from CGMs and pumps, it's more diabetes living. What is the the the darkest moment you've had with your diabetes, like the hardest thing that you've experienced?

SPEAKER_00 7:53

Um more so mentality than like I at first I was a kid, I didn't want to must have like count the car, but I barely, you know, was doing my schoolwork, you know. So I it was so asking me to do schoolwork and do that, like, oh man, it was a lot. So um I kinda it was my mentality. I I was I didn't really care for it. Um I didn't have some good doctors at the beginning, and they were like trying to scare me. Gosh, and and I have grace for them. But that was not good to be telling a 12-year-old, 13-year-old little kid about amputation and legs getting cut off and all stuff like that, you know, like, but it made me in a negative zone, made me realize how serious it was. Um, and I would feel these things, I would have keto acidosis multiple times, go to the hospital, lose five pounds, ten pounds in a day from all throwing up and things like that. Like it was um those things didn't scare me. It was more so the fact of I felt not normal. Like that was the thing that got me. And um I felt like I would see other kids, they were here enjoying their soda and whatever it may be. And I'm like, man, I want that soda and I want that, but I know if I go and drink that, I can't, it's not gonna do well for me. Um I felt like I was like having a lot of FOMO and missing out. So um as I grew older, um through my parents, my my mom specifically, um, and as well as just living. Um, and you know, you get older, you learn some more things and my relationship with with God. I learned that it's it's a it's a blessing because I learned so much about my body at a young age that kids and a lot of people around me did not do. And at the same time, I didn't want to take shots. I don't want to count carbs. I don't want to do that. So sometimes like I look at it like a blessing with side effects. That's what I call it. It's a blessing, it's a blessing with lifetime side effects, side effects, because I'm so I have to be in tune with my body so much, you know. Like I'm going to the doctors. I I know what insurance is. Like a lot of people my age, they don't know that. They don't know what deductible, they don't know any of that stuff. Like, so like I know, like, you know, at least, you know, I can see like God is preparing me in in this manner and and pass that information on to other people. Um, but it's just been mostly just a mentality, I would say, just like not thinking that I'm not normal because I I have diabetes.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

Yeah. Well, I want to touch on two pieces from that. So one is the the the gift, right? Where it's like it's a blessing with side effects. I think that's a beautiful way of putting it. It's true. Um, it sucks and it's enabled us to learn about ourselves. You know, like I mean, I was eating California burritos at two o'clock in the morning before I was diagnosed, and then I learned that's not a good idea. You know, you can find out a whole lot more about nutrition, but um the normalcy piece behind it. So I was actually just talking to my wife about this a few days ago about when I first got on a CGM, I would rip it off and just toss it in the closet because I was so embarrassed to be seen as different. And I was diagnosed as a late teenager, but for you diagnosed at nine, you get to go through that developmental phase with diabetes. What was it like for you going through that? And the second half of that question is what can we tell someone who might be in that place right now at 10, 11, 12, 14, you're kind of going through life navigating diabetes in school and peer pressure and growing up?

SPEAKER_00 11:55

That's a that's a tough one. I would I would say like when I was when I was in my when I was in school, I would always have that you know thing hanging off me or a tube or something like that, beeping, you know. I mean we're in a we're in a uh in a quiet room testing and like people think I'm cheating, you know, because I'm beeping going off. And uh I will plead, I will like plead up, no, not plead the fifth, but I will say I did sometimes, it is a blessing with side effects because sometimes I'm not gonna lie, I did with me like I gotta go to the nurse and think about my testings. It's just a teacher is not gonna say teacher's not gonna say, hey man, I can't, you can't go to the nurse. Like um, so sometimes I would I would use that to my advantage, but but that's on a serious note. Um, on a serious note. I it was a lot having people ask me all the time, like, what was that, and I didn't want to talk about it all the time. And it it made me feel like um, like I said, like I what I didn't feel like I fit in with everyone else. Um, but I would say at least that I've learned that you know, we're all there, there's no such thing as normal. Like everybody is their own unique individual person that God has made uniquely. And you may have unique things that that has had that has happened. Um and like I sometimes like I hate to say like look on the brighter side of things, but as I said, it's like it's like a it's a blessing with side effects. Um I was able to learn and talk to a lot more different people um and different spaces because I had diabetes. Sometimes it would uh it would help kind of get me um in a place where I just had to think about why I was feeling the way I was feeling and like sometimes emotional and things like that. Um so I would say like being being unique is not a bad thing. It's I think God's design. Um and it just so happens that you and I have this um, I would say oh I'm trying to lose my watch my language. It's a part of some suffering, I would say. This this thing that we have that we call diabetes. Um however, if you lean into it, and it it can be a blessing to your life to learn more about your body and health and be more conscious, I mean, uh more aware um about your body more than other people and save you a lot of heartache, and you might be a person that might even change the way your family views things. For me, that's how that's how it was. I got diabetes, and my mother, my my sister, they were like almost 300 pounds each. I have a picture, I wish I had it with me, but a picture of me standing, and they were like two twin towers, and I'm like this little small skinny kid. And like because of my diabetes, they they changed, and the people around me changed because they saw I had to be different, and it made them start thinking in a certain way. So um sometimes I guess maybe instead of looking inward and looking outward and um trying to see yourself as uh still a blessing to others too.

SPEAKER_02 15:32

But that's huge. Well, and like what you just said, a lot of times we don't know, not a lot of times, I would say always, we don't know the full extent of our impact, right? So there's gonna be people who maybe don't lose weight, but they change their perspective on life. You can't see that. And they may never tell you what you've inspired them without you knowing it. So yeah, living in a way that uh enables us to uh I this feels weird to say a bit showcase our growth so that others can grow because of it, right? Um and to touch on what you mentioned, which was perspective, it's so true. You know, everyone's got their thing or things, sometimes it's multiple. But uh, you know, one time I in in passing had said, well, at least I don't have um like I have the ability to walk, you know, like my legs don't work, so I'm happy about that. And someone's like, well, that would care to somebody who can't walk. I'm like, well, they don't have to take shots, so there you go. You know, like they don't have what I have, I don't have what they have. And we can all find gratitude. I can still walk and run and play. I'm so grateful for that. You know, type one diabetes is hard, but it it's something I can still live with. It's not a death sentence as long as I take good care of it. So huge perspective shift. I love that. Um, back to the blood sugar specifically, though, because mindset obviously a core foundation of everything, but physically and metabolically with the blood sugar piece. What was it that you were going through before jumping into our program? What was going on with the blood sugars?

SPEAKER_00 17:03

Um, I was more so a uh tinkerer. I think I would be a little bit on the not safe side, and I and I thank I thank the Lord for his grace on my life. I've done some crazy stuff, just tinkering with my numbers, like like doing now that I've learned about the 10% changes and things in this program, like it's like I would do like 40, 50% or like and just be off the wall with it and uh wonder why my triggers are all crazy. But um, but before this program, I was I would say I was definitely a thinker. I would always ask myself, why is this happening? Like there, I know there's some information. Somebody's out here, like somebody out here has something different. I know I don't have to stay this way. I know when I got on the pump, it helped tremendously because it was automating things for me. And then my my A1C went down to like a 6'8. Um, and then as I found as I continue to improve my lifestyle around it, whether that may be working out, eating differently, um counting my carbs a little bit more better, like weighing my foods out, because now I'm trying to work out and also gain muscle. And I'm I'm like, I gotta count my calories, but so I gotta weigh my food, and that helps promote good carb counting. Like I was always thinking in that manner. But when I came to you guys, it has given me a language to my thinking that I did not have. So now I have different like formulas or different things to think about that I actually have more confidence in than me, like and my my uh, I would say my science experience on myself. Um uh and and that it gave me also encouragement because I was like, oh, I'm not alone. I there's other people experimenting on themselves. And this is kind of like the the way, it's not in a in a safe way, 10% rule, 10% rule, but in a in a in a safe way um that you guys have guided me on. Um but I've definitely learned like the that way of thinking that I had um and still have is like it's it's the way I should be going on to continue to help me to get to the to my goals, which for me is like five A1C and not having roller coasters and being able to, if I want to go do uh high rocks one day or something like that, being able to sit say confidently, I know I'm gonna do this, and my blood sugar should be here after. Like, and not have to think about that too much. I mean, I'm gonna think about it, but not have to like go and be looking and all that, you know, every 15 seconds. Um, so yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 19:56

Yeah, yeah, I love that. Uh well, and from the to 6.8 is what the A1C was when you know, tandem and the algorithm kind of took over and helped you get there. But the goal obviously is you kind of in the fives. So where things were at beforehand with blood sugars, you mentioned the 40%, 50% changes are just which I think is just a testament to how dedicated you were. You're like, I'm gonna figure this out. Even though you run into a couple of issues, but uh, what were blood sugars like in the day-to-day back then?

SPEAKER_00 20:31

My blood sugars were kind of um they were more so I would say roller coaster-y, um, very unpredictable. Um, now if I make a change or or I do something, I can kind of predict where it's going to go. Um, and like if I see something, it's like information now, instead of like, oh, why is it doing that? I don't know why it's doing that. Um, so they were kind of very all over the place. I had a 6.8 or 6. I have a 6.4 A UC last time. I went to a doctor maybe two months ago. But my my doctor's like, thumbs up, and I'm like, you are not living in my body. It's not, it's like this, and I I have no control over it. Um now it's more still, you know, I'm still in the basal testing phase, but still like kind of, but I have more stagnant, more control. I feel better. I feel more normal, I guess you would say it's I don't want to use that word, but like more more uh not roller coastery and feeling all the ketones and all things like that. Um so is that is that more clear on where my blood sugars were if they make sense?

SPEAKER_02 21:45

Yeah, and and tell me what how that shows up in your life now. So you mentioned less roller coastery, making progress on the stable numbers. What does that impact and how does that feel?

SPEAKER_00 21:56

My mentality. Um, as I said before, like my mentality is. Like you know, um the big thing for me. Um now I um can feel a bit more comfortable and just it feels good. Like everything every human being in the world wants to like when they know that they know or like they feel confident in something, it feels good. So like my mentality towards diabetes now is more I would say confident in what I'm doing and the changes that I'm making and why I am making those changes. Um is is just skyracking. Skyracking.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

So that is so cool. Yeah, it's huge too. Um, and people, it's so it's hard to explain because you can't explain what it feels like to have things in control where you don't have to think about it as much. It's almost like you don't know until you know. So, you know, you're like, oh, it's good enough, and then you achieve 80, 90, 100 range, and you're like, holy cow, I can't believe I was just dealing with 60, 70, whatever percent diamond range. Yep. Oh my gosh, I was struggling and I didn't even know it. You know, because we get used to it. I think that's the issue, is we develop this unknown complacency because we just don't know what better looks like or feels like. So that's so exciting to hear. Um, where did you initially find out about us? I'm curious.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

Um, in my science experiment, I think I was filing a whole bunch of like people who had diabetes, and I think the algorithm just like pushed you on my Instagram, and I saw you, like you know, you was doing your talk, and I was telling you real. What you see, what you're saying. And then I found out you had a book, and I was recently on like a there are not there's knowledge of books. I was like, let me go buy this book. And I was as I was reading, and I was like, oh, he knows what he knows what he's talking about. Like I was testing the water to see, like, is this really real? Because like, based on the things I've been learning, I'm like, this, let's see. And I was like, oh, he knows what he's talking about, he's not playing. And I and as I was as I was reading the book, um, you had mentioned in there, like, about like the personalized thing, and I was like, I'm I'm at a place in my life where I don't mind making that investment for my life. So I was like, this is what I want. I need to do this, and I want to make this change now. So I so I would rather not struggle by myself. I know is there's some people that can help me and guide me along this way um to get where I want to go and maybe faster if I'm gonna do it by myself and be uh I'm gonna do it on my own, which doesn't work out most at a time. So so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 24:49

Yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

What's that?

SPEAKER_00 24:52

Oh, I say I would say just in general, I would say probably Instagram. I would say Instagram is where I found you.

SPEAKER_02 24:59

Gotcha. Well, and your your journey makes total sense because there are a lot of uh I would say misdirection on the internet when it comes to type one and just people who are like, oh, it's the same as type two, and you're like, no, it's not, you know, like, oh, you just eat healthier, and you're like, nope, it's not gonna work either. You know, there's a lot of dead ends, unfortunately. So, I mean, as you were going through that, because I'm sure there are people watching this too at the same thought process. What were your hesitations that came up before working with us as you're exploring?

SPEAKER_00 25:28

I would say honestly, it was like probably my pride. It was like, I can figure this out on my own. This is probably personal to me. I was like, I think I can figure it out on my own. I just need to like, I need to just go through and go on the internet or search or do more research. And um, I I didn't think that I needed somebody to come along at first. Um, that's just my own personal thing. And you know, God humbled me. And and I came to the point where I was like, I need help. Um, and I can't do it. My doctor, I ask her, she's like, you're good. And I'm like, no, I'm not. And uh she's a great doctor, but you know, she just in her own zone and has different clientele things that maybe not be in the place that I am. So um I I was like, I need to go where people feel the same way I feel. And um, I saw that, and um, it just so happens I was in a place where I was like, I think I'm ready to start making more investments in myself. And um the the opportunity came and I was like, let's do it. That's pretty much it.

SPEAKER_02 26:42

What you just touched on too is such a common experience, which is the the differential between standards, right? It's like we in our group, as you've experienced, we hold ourselves to a much higher standard than the medical system does, or the medical system is like, hey, you're doing good enough, you're still alive, and you're like, that's not that can't be the goal. Yeah, it can't be the goal, can't then realizing you can do more. It's like, oh, but to be fair to them, uh, because I don't want to like just badmouth doctors, I think that the the reality is that they have 95% of their patients who don't care, and they're just like, How do I survive, doc? You know, and we're counting and we're like, How do I get an A? And they're like, I don't have time for you, you're doing great, just go on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, they're trying to keep other people alive. So it's challenging when we want more, but they're unable to provide that because they have to keep all the other people alive and and going. Yeah, um, so with you then going through the program, obviously you jumped in, you did your in the middle of making adjustments right now, and uh, you mentioned the the science experiment that you're in. And I think it's important to note experiment with guardrails for everybody who's listening. Like, oh yeah, just experiment, not wildly, right? Do put some guardrails up. Um don't do this pretty fit to right, don't do that. Uh but when the experiments and like learning comes to mind, what was the moment you knew that this program was working for you? Like things just started clicking.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

I would say the first couple of weeks was definitely really hard. Um, again, I had that, like, even though I said yes, I was still in the back of my mind, like, man, maybe if I just do this a little bit different away, they went this thing. Or I I think I I think I can figure it out faster. No. When I when I started, at least for me, when I started completely, I would say taking the initiative and taking this, like taking some of the faults and things that I were going through, uh, was going through when I started um for myself and like being like, yeah, this this this why this happened is because I did not do what you guys were telling me to do, uh, specifically. Um and um that helped a lot. That helped a lot, specifically as in like keeping things simple and uh removing variables and things like that um that may help um while I am testing. And I I've noticed as I've been doing that, it has helped me have a way clearer one effect on some of the things I'm eating or doing, how that really does affect me. And two, also um helping me to draw a baseline, um, at least with my basil, um, of what really is impacting me and what isn't. Um so yeah, I hope to answer your question.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

That's huge. Yeah, and I was the same way going through other programs because I've gone through other health coaching stuff for myself. And I always look for the the way to like hack the system. Like, I'm smarter than these guys, you know, I can figure out right, right. They've helped thousands of people, they probably know what the best path is, you know. So I'm happy to hear that. Um, we're going you know back to the foundations, phasal testing and and getting everything dialed in. So that's exciting. Yeah, uh, very cool. And looking at um just kind of the conversations that you had in your own head before joining, and maybe somebody who's there right now watching this, like on the fence, not sure what to do, what would your message be to that person?

SPEAKER_00 30:16

I would say a small, I'll give a small story. So when I when I first got on the call and I had the initiative call, and I was hearing about the good things, and I was like, oh my gosh, this sounds like amazing, like life-changing. And I was hesitant for multiple reasons. Um, but uh one of the reasons was is this worth the investment? Even though I wanted to make the investment, I was like, is this worth the investment right now for me? Um and I remember I was like, you know what, let me let me take a little second, think about it. I'm serious. I was like, this sounds like, and I remember I went to go talk to my family members. I remember they told me, they was like, what why are you talking to us about this? Like, just do it. Like, why like this this is life-changing? Like this is this is not, this is the the time, the investment, like any of that, like doesn't really matter because it's if you're you're in a place right now where you where you can, and I guess some people may may or may not be, and I get that too. Um, but if you do, if you do have the time, and I mean not have the time, if you can make the time, and if you can make the investment, then this time and investment is priceless. The time, the the investment on financially is priceless. Um, and I came to that conclusion and I was like, okay, this this is this is what I have to do. And um in order for me to because you guys, what you guys are doing, you guys, not like not like you're like, this is what you do, this is what you do, like this is what you do, we're gonna water, you know, like completely hold your hand. It's like, no. And I I appreciate that because it helps me, it helps me like take initiative for the things I do. So when I gracefully exit this program, I can be confident with the things that you guys taught me and walked me through that when life comes up, my hormones change, I get older, whatever happens in life, I know how to make the adjustments on the go and on the fly in order to get the results that I currently want and will have at the end of this program. That's what I like.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

Independence, right? Yep, yep, yep, very much so. 100%. Yeah, and anybody watching this, uh, what he's basically saying is you have to work if you want it to work, because we'll teach you everything you need to know, but we're not gonna do it for you because it's your body. And yeah, there's two sides to it. One is that we can't just fix other people because it's your body, and you gotta make your decisions there. But two is that it does create independence where it's like, okay, now I have everything I need and I'm good. You know, I can go do my life. I love that. I love that you're already seeing that too. Very cool. Uh well, last thing then, before we wrap up today, what would be uh a golden nugget you'd want to leave the the viewers or listeners with before we wrap up?

SPEAKER_00 33:26

I would say that um when anything that comes towards your health and your health and as in mental or physical, and you can and you have the space and um the finances or or any way um to make that investment, I would say do it because the the information, if it is worth it, um, and you have given it consideration is normally always priceless. It's never wrong to learn about how to be better. Never wrong. It's like can't ask a bad question, you know. Like it's never wrong to learn more and to um lean in more into investing in yourself.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

Wise words. Yeah, what is that phrase? Uh a healthy man has a thousand wishes, a sick man has one, right? And when your health is messed up, nothing else matters. So I totally agree. Love that. Yep. Well, thank you so much for taking some time today, Trayvon, to come on here and share your story. Uh, there were pieces in there I didn't even know yet. So it was uh exciting for me too, listening to pieces of your childhood and your diabetes experience. Uh, for everybody else who is listening doesn't know what step to take next, we'll put this in the description for you. But we actually have a free training you can go watch to learn about blood sugar formulas and get get involved in our ecosystem. Uh, you can go to diabetesinaction.com for a totally free training. Check it out. If you like what you see, you can talk to one of our specialists and we'll see if it's a fit to help. All right. And Trayvon, again, thank you again for your time. Uh, truly inspirational story. Love the perspective shifts and just how you've graduated through different phases of life with diabetes. It's it really is inspirational. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Everybody else, thanks for hanging out. Go check out that link, diabetesinaction.com. We'll see you guys in the next one. And keep up the fight.