SPEAKER_00 0:00

My average blood sugar in February before I started was 9.5, which is 171 in your in your world. Um now it's 7.9, so it's 142. Still all obviously lots of room for improvement, but for me, this is like oh my goodness, I didn't realise.

unknown 0:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

I mean range gone from 62% to 80%. Oh I know, I'm just so impressed with that. Um standard deviation 2.9 to 2.5. So that's coming down, which is nice. Um the A1C is 7.4 and I'm now 6.7. So there's still room. Yeah, still room, but the trend is going in the right direction for me, which I'm just I just sat here this morning looking, going, I've actually done a pretty good job. I should actually put that up on my win on the win community page, which I'll probably do after I get off off here. But you know, it's fantastic. And generally speaking, I'm now feeling when I get out there and do something activity-wise or just generally around the house, I'm not having these huge lows anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:09

Keep going and keep up the fight.

SPEAKER_03 1:13

All right. Well, Simone, I am so excited to have you on. I was actually just reviewing the notes before this about how your doctor mentioned that you might be brittle and just the journey you've been on. And uh, of course, before and after working with us, I am so excited to get into the details. But before we do, uh, would love to have you share a little bit about yourself, maybe how long have you had diabetes, are you on a pump or pens, and uh just a little intro.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

Okay, hi Matt. Good to be here. Um, a little bit nervous, but we'll we'll see how we go. Um, I was diagnosed when I was 11, so that would have been 1980, and you can work out the age from there. So at that time, um, yeah, on insulin pens, no, actually insulin needles. I was taking it by needles twice a day. Um, blood testing, there was no such thing. It was like penny test tablets in a test tube and really ancient, ancient stuff. So uh yeah, so the round 11, probably a hard age to get it as well, even though you know some people get it way before then. Um very rebellious for many years at that stage. So eating everything I was not allowed. So chocolates, fried foods, biscuits, all sorts of things were limited. They weren't sort of, yeah, take it and do the insulin thing. Um, so yeah, packet of chocolate biscuits every night hidden underneath my bed, for goodness sake. So it was crazy times. Um that continued for quite a while. So even when I was like a young adult, I was still not doing blood testing. When blood testing finally came in, I was just ignoring it all, just doing my journey. Um, I had moved away from home living in Dubbo, which is on the other side of the world. So I was brought up in Western Australia. Dubbo's in uh east coast of Australia, just doing feeling fine, thinking everything was going along. And then um I started doing blood testing, and then that was an interesting experience. My HPR1Cs were 10% above constantly, and then um probably eight years ago started a pump that came down to 8%, uh, which was great. And I started taking a bit more interest in how things were going. Uh, by then complications started to hit him, like kidney stuff and eye stuff and nerve stuff, all those sort of things. And now uh the last couple of years, I've really started to think, okay, I need to do something specific here. Went looking worldwide for all sorts of information that I could find, and happened to come across you on a Facebook. And I'm just going, oh, who is this guy? And from there, I then looked into your website and joined and haven't looked back. And that was January this year, January, February, February this year, actually. So um, and feeling all the better for it.

SPEAKER_03 4:01

Amazing. And yeah, what a journey. Uh, we have a lot of clients who diagnosed, you know, 40, 50, 60 plus years ago. And man, the what type 1 diabetes management has been on itself, right? And now we're at CGM, heartpods, all this crazy stuff. It's wild. Absolutely. I mean, even for me, I was diagnosed not even 20 years ago, and I started on syringes and vials, and it seems archaic. Just like it's scary. Yeah, like how do we survive? But we did, and we're here. But uh really excited to dive in. I was curious too, because you mentioned that some changes, some shifts between you starting to take care of yourself, you getting on a pump eventually, and like kind of doing these different stages. What was the maybe the scariest or the the darkest moment in the last few years before you're working with us? Tell me how about that?

SPEAKER_00 4:55

Yeah, okay. So I was not on a pump yet. I was uh multiple daily injections and sort of you know, doing blood tests every so often, but thought, yeah, I can feel it, it's all good, no worries. Driving a car, I was coming home from work and I went, oh, something's not quite right. And within probably a minute, I'd blacked out. And it was like, oh my god. And when I woke up, I was in a hospital bed. So uh it's gonna be a bit teary here, sorry. And um, so what had happened from what I could understand, there was a car following behind me and they could see me starting to slow down, slow down and drift off the road. And luckily, where we are, we live out in the bush off the road, sort of like into a bit of a bush. And um, so eventually I stopped. So this person got out of the car, saw I was wearing my work badge still, so they rang them and said who I was. And they said, Oh, yeah, no, I just got type one, blah, blah, blah, get an ambulance. And yeah, I'd passed out, and it took me about four hours before I came back again. And from there, it was, yeah, I need to take better care of myself. So, yeah, excuse me.

SPEAKER_03 6:14

An incredible story. Um, you know, it's unfortunate, but also fortunate because I think a lot of people, myself included, have those moments where it's a reality check. You know, yeah. We're lucky to be here, and how lucky that we had that experience that changed the trajectory of the rest of our lives. Yes. I mean, I look back sort of similar situations where I just I wasn't super on top of it, had a couple scary experiences. Had I not had those scary experiences, I would never have started taking care of myself intentionally, right? I'd be exactly plus years. So man, it's like it's hard to be grateful for it.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

Yeah, yeah. When you look back now, you think thank goodness, because I probably would have just kept going. And uh, probably well, I probably wouldn't be here. Like you say, you probably won't be here, or you're in a if you're here, you're sort of in a very poor health state, poor mental health state. And you know, you'd be wondering if life was still worth living. So very happy it happened, but not happy at the same time.

SPEAKER_03 7:14

Yeah, right. Yeah, not happy then, but happy now, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 7:18

Totally get it. Yeah, if I was managing the same way I was in college, I would not be in a good spot right now. I would not be healthy. Um, so tell me a little bit about then you mentioned you're searching worldwide looking for help for answers to the questions about type one. You found us on Facebook. What was life like before you were working with us? Like what were you struggling with mostly?

SPEAKER_00 7:38

Oh, so mainly I just didn't understand um what my pump. So by when I started looking worldwide, it was after I got my pump, and I'm trying to figure out what these numbers are because then you had the the glucose sensor on your on the monitor on your skin, so you're getting readings all the time. So that was great, didn't have to prick my fingers, and I'm going, what does this all mean? I was reactive all the time, just trying to figure out pump life in general, but the highs and the lows, like I was shooting up one minute, then 10 minutes later, I'm dropping down and then up, and it's like this can't be right. I can't do this for the rest of my life. Even though my HBA1Cs were down to, for example, in February this year, before I started with you guys, my HBO1C was 7.4, so that was good. But the roller coaster ride meant my coefficient of variation was 36. So I was up and down and all over the place. And I couldn't, it was interfering with my life in the way that I couldn't do anything. Like I couldn't sort of go out with my friends, I couldn't go for a walk thinking, how's this going to work? I'm going to go skyrocket, then I'm going to fall on the ground and not get home. Or so it was really interfering with everything, and I just had to find a new way of doing it. So searching worldwide, trying to get answers, found a website based in the UK that gave me some answers. It was a very theoretical type of answers. Put that into place, helped a little bit, which was great. Like was I was helped grateful that I sort of stumbled across them, and that was, you know, helping me a little bit. But still, it was still happening. That whole roller coaster ride, the whole experience, the highs and the lows, and and the mood swings. My husband just he knew when I was going high, I'd just become a cranky, you know, not a very nice person. And he said, just get out there and do some walking or give yourself a shot or whatever. Just settle yourself down. And uh, so life was a little bit unbearable for both of us for quite a while. And then uh then things started to come together a bit more when I saw you on phone. I was actually traveling uh around the world at the time when I saw you, and I went, Oh, I wonder if this might help. And the more I listened to some of the webinars you were doing and that sort of thing, the more I understood. Like it was plain English, it was real life English, it was real world scenarios, not theoretical textbook stuff. And it started to click. And I just went, Yeah, I've got to keep going here. This is good.

SPEAKER_03 10:15

Wow. So you mentioned you were checking out other resources as well before us, which I think is great. You were just you were on the hunt, right? Yes. Um, what other attempts did you make in terms of like trying to fix the blood sugars? What strategies were out there that you tried?

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Oh, well, I suppose um, yeah, I'll talk to my diverse educator for a while. Um she was good, but not detailed enough for me. And she would say, you know, do the pre-bowls and exactly what you say. And I'm going, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, going out all the time and this and that, and sometimes it's hard. Um, and she says, Well, you know, do your walking after afterwards. I'm going, I do that, still not helping. I under need to understand what else is going on. Um, other strategies, yeah. I just sort of got more and more into I got to the point where I would exercise before each meal, then I'd exercise for maybe up to an hour after a meal just to try and control it. Um and it was just, I mean, I was super fit then. It consumed my whole life. And if I couldn't get out and walk or run or run my rowing machine, the blood sugar levels were skyrocketing. It was just out of control, and then they'd sit high all the time. Um, and then I just you know, then you get into this, oh, I just don't know what to do. I don't want to keep doing all this exercise. I just want to be normal. And yeah, that's sometimes I'd stack insulin, and that was the worst thing I could be doing. So, you know, several hours down the track, I'm wondering why I'm 2.1 and still not going up. And I'm just going, huh. So just didn't work. Nothing worked, pretty much. Nothing that I felt worked anyway. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

Right. The way you describe it, I mean, I know we have our phrase in our community of living for diabetes versus living with diabetes. And I think we've all been there, right? Where it's like, okay, I have to exercise because it's high. You know, like I do something about this. And it's disciplined, but it's it's also, at least for most people, a road to burnout, right? It's like I'm trying so hard. It's just not, yep. It's not sustainable. So yeah, that's a huge distinction. Um, and then obviously, you you said you found us, you're watching videos and webinars and kind of finding out what it is that we do. What concerns did you have before jumping in? Obviously, some stranger on the internet, right?

SPEAKER_00 12:49

So, um, my main one was trying to stop the swings, um, the highs and the lows. That was my main one of my that was my main one. And then the second one, every time I did any form of exercise now, I would just drop within that first 30, 40 minutes. I would plummet. I might be sitting at eight millimoles, which I don't know what that's in your language. Um, but then I just drop and I couldn't understand because I'm thinking, I'm doing okay, and didn't think about insulin on board. This is how much I've learned. I talk about insulin on board now, which is amazing. Um and didn't think about that because I thought, don't need to think about that, didn't think about thinking about that. Um, and so I really wanted to be able to predict more how my blood sugar levels would react when I did certain things, even just every day going food shopping or every day hanging out the washing or gardening, and as well as doing my nominated exercise that I'd be doing for the day. So that predictability for me was huge, and I really wanted to figure out that as well as you know, and with that would probably come the swings would start to slow down and there'd be more plateau, that sort of thing. So that was my main goal of coming along and joining your group.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

Yeah, absolutely. Well, and uh I would say at the the moment of taking the decision to jump in and actually do this thing, were there any concerns that came to mind with this being unfamiliar territory, you know, an online program, that sort of thing?

SPEAKER_00 14:32

No, actually. And I think part of the reason for that was for me, when I sort of listened to, because I know you you on your Facebook you talk about stuff, you've talked several different topics, and every time I saw them, they were like real life, could definitely relate to every single thing that you said. And I'm going, well, if this guy sort of understands what I'm going through, it has to be a safe place to be able to learn and you know talk about stuff and express your your worries and concerns. And and I just found, I don't mean to boost your ego too much in that, but I know. I mean, I still want your head to stay within your camera road, but I still um I just found that you were real and empathetic, but saying it as it is, and it just gave me comfort that there's someone out there in the world that actually got it, and not just me, but got the whole diabetes scenarios and all the different things that happen in in diabetes world, and it doesn't have to rule your life. I mean, you have to pay some attention, but you don't have to be like you were saying before, diabetes doesn't have to rule you. You can, I can't remember what you said, live with it or live for it. Um, but it just I was comfortable and it was an interesting thing because I'm always very critical, very skeptical, and it was weird for me to think, I feel like I know this flok. And I feel comfortable jumping in at least for a little while longer to see how it works and put my toes in and see if there's any difference that starts to happen. And it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 16:18

Let's talk about that difference a little bit. So, and how did you know the program was actually working? Like, tell me about the first time you were like, oh shoot, like this is I'm making progress.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Well, pre-bolus. I was I well, first of all, I was in the Warrior Renegade Warrior Tribe Plus. I sort of joined on that level.

SPEAKER_04 16:36

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

Talking to all the community members, looking at some of the videos in there and going, oh, yeah, no, that's cool. That's cool. I can understand that. And I think I came across maybe one in that or the diaries in action, I can't remember which one, the the pre-bolis. And I went, yeah, I've heard about pre-bowls, but surely it can't make that much difference. And I tried it, like I really, you know, for that week, I just sort of I wasn't going out much anymore because I'm an older person now, and and we live in a small town, so there's not a lot of places to go. And so I we did pre-bowls and amazing change, instant, pretty much. Like it was within two days, and I'm doing it constantly now. And I use that formula with a little bit extra, and I'm going, how simple is this? I didn't even have to do anything. It was just one thing I did remember though, I have to put my timer on because I get distracted, and then it's like half an hour and going, Oh shoot, I'm heading down now. I haven't had breakfast. I don't know, and I'm just up, but so I now have to put my timer on to remind me. Um, but pre polls was the easiest thing ever. Like most of my concerns nearly went away, apart from predictability, but that whole spiky thing and understanding the fats and the carbs and the protein and how that impact on digestion, it was amazing. That was probably the key thing. If that if that was the only thing I learned, I'd be very happy with that.

SPEAKER_03 18:03

Wow. Yeah, and I think that what you're you're beginning to touch on that I'm hoping some people are picking up on too is it's not just take insulin early. You mentioned the digestion speed changing, the formula pieces. So it's a dynamic strategy, right? So depending on the situation, you might pre-bulse longer or shorter, and this many minutes is what's gonna make it work. But even if somebody was like, all right, I'll take insulin five minutes before I eat, that's still gonna help in nine times out of ten. You know, it really is that simple in some cases.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

It is amazing, it really is. Yeah, perfect.

SPEAKER_03 18:36

I love that. Well, very cool. Um, well, and I'm curious too, what was uh I mean, I know you mentioned you've seen the Facebook videos and whatnot, but what was it about the program that made you pick us? What stood out to you?

SPEAKER_00 18:48

Um, I think like I said before, I think it was just the reality. Like when I joined the warrior Renegade Warrior tribe, the people in the community were real. Like, this sounds stupid, doesn't it? But they were real. They weren't robots. No, no, exactly. And they were those chat bots on the side or whatever, they were real and they were talking about anything and everything. Like it was like, oh my god, I get you all, like this is just amazing. Like, and once you started engaging with them, because I I engage on and off, depending on you know how I'm feeling and what my mood is, and you know, anxiety and all that sort of stuff. But um, when I engage and sort of put my piece forward, or I might respond to somebody talking about something, um they were there to say, Yeah, good on you, Simone, like, yep, I like your comment or give me feedback or whatever. And I was like, ah, before then, before that time, I didn't realise how isolated I have been in my life with diabetes. Like I had my family, my friends, but they don't have diabetes. I had my diabetes educator who has the beginnings of type one. So I suppose she's a pre-type one, so she's taking insulin but doesn't need to take it all the time, sort of scenario. She still doesn't get it because she doesn't live with it 24 hours every day. But the community was right there, and you think, oh, this these people get me. And not everyone, everyone's got a different point of view, which you go, oh, never thought about that. Let's think about that for a little bit longer. And and all those different points of view I like to hear and take on board and sort out what's best for me. But supportive and happy to bring you on, like in welcome you on board and just say, Yeah, just join us and work things out together. It was great, is great, still continues to be great.

SPEAKER_03 20:46

Yeah, 100%. It's true. Uh, and that's one of my favorite parts too. Like transparently, I look around, you know, there's over a thousand people in there now, and it is it's one of the rarest communities that I've seen because a lot of the communities are filled with complaints and negativity, right? It's just like diabetes sucks. I'm like, well, yeah, it does, but let's focus on what we can do about it. It's it's one of the greatest gifts that I've experienced is that this community is focused on finding solutions, but also supporting and encouraging, right?

SPEAKER_04 21:19

Yep, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 21:21

So yeah, speaking of solutions, I'd love to hear where you're at now. So I know you mentioned previously you got yourself to a 7.4, like you know, it wasn't terrible, but that's where you were at. Yeah, how are things now? Um, E1C, time and range, yeah, possibility of lifestyle. Let's hear that.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

Okay, so I have started for you because I and I'm looking at the data. I went, okay, February when I first just before I joined you guys, and I'm looking in July now, and I'm just looking at and going, what? That doesn't make sense. Massive in changes for me, anyway. I'm just going, didn't realize, which is something I mentioned, I think in your book, um, you mentioned something about reviewing your day or your week just to see what's been happening and what what you can learn. Okay. So it's a learning experience. So just some figures. My average blood sugar in February before I started was 9.5, which is 171 in your in your world. Now it's 7.9 so it's 142. Still obviously lots of room for improvement. But for me this is like oh my goodness I didn't realize.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

I mean range has gone from 62% to 80%. I know I'm just so impressed with that. Standard deviation 2.9 to 2.5 so that's coming down which is nice. The A1C is 7.4 and I'm now 6.7. So there's still room yes still room but the trend is going in the right direction for me which I'm just I just sat here this morning looking going I've actually done a pretty good job. I should actually put that up on my win on the win community page which I'll probably do after I get off here. But you know it's fantastic. And generally speaking I'm now feeling when I get out there and do something activity wise or just turning around the house I'm not having these huge lows anymore. I'm catching them a little bit earlier when they start um because I've set my alert a little bit higher than I would normally do, which is great. But being more even killed is I'm mentally feeling better which reflects in everything else I do my relationships and my friends and everyone's commenting well you're not this crazy person anymore.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

You're just normal which is great so within my own self it's feeling content more relaxed and generally mentally better which is I never thought I'd get to this spot and I'm looking forward to more improvement but at the moment I'm really happy where I'm sitting at the moment yeah absolutely well and there's two pieces so one is that is actually really impressive so 62% to 80% uh and A1C dropping almost a full point 7.4 to 6.7 that's just amazing and like you said the trajectory right everything is improving and in my opinion I think that slow sustainable growth is actually better than overnight success that you can't sustain. In other words if you went keto and that was the only strategy you would see success quickly but not everybody likes that you know man I am so happy for you. That's really cool.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

No that's great. And uh just quickly I know we're probably running out of time but I've as I mentioned I'm in the diaries action dibris in action group and and I'm doing all this and I'm up to my exercise stuff and I'm doing that and I'm just starting on the food side. So I haven't actually started even changing what I'm eating yet to make it more continuous because I know my eating patterns are shocking like they're healthy but they're not consistent. You know I don't have the consistent percentages of everything every day every meal I'm all over the place and I'm just thinking if I can make that a little bit more consistent and sustainable imagine where I'll be then it'll be perfect.

SPEAKER_03 25:20

Not perfectly catch in not perfect for not going for perfection better again what that's that's even cooler.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

So there's there's things that are untouched that we can still make more progress with more easy buttons right yeah oh that's very exciting I'm very very happy and I'm just really glad that I stumbled across this group and you and and this group and I must say yourself and the the coaches I've been working with especially um Adriana is it Adriana Adrienne Adrienne Kelly Lindsay I've been mostly working with Adrienne at the moment and um amazing that she's got type one like Kelly has type one you have type one it's great that the coaches that I've been involved with all have type one so also know exactly where you're coming from and they have their own little tidbits they can share and you just think you can't do better can you really like with all these people surrounding you that are willing to help and and you know put you on the the path that you want to be not their path but your path um it's a good feeling.

SPEAKER_03 26:31

100% yeah it's taken us nearly a decade to find them but experts that also live with type one it's the best thing ever. I agree I actually go to them for help sometimes too. Yeah yeah yeah nice cool all right so imagining now like there's somebody watching this probably that is on the fence and maybe is new to our stuff seeing you going through it kind of on the other side what advice would you give to somebody who is on the fence at the beginning of their journey with us or maybe even unsure if they should join yep I would say definitely join there's a lot of stuff in there like lots of information um probably too much for your mind to handle but just if you join is a is it's a great decision to join but then you've got support encouragement and understanding which is what you know most of us need to then continue the journey on like it's something that you can't do without pretty much I mean it's turned turned my life around and in such a short amount of time and I'm just really curious to see how much further I can go continuing to improve my own journey let alone helping others as well along the journey as well.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

So I'd say jump in, give it a whirl I think the best thing you can do is engage with other communities like you've got all the videos and everything and that's great and they're very encouraging and supportive and motivating but the community side is also great for motivation because the more you engage the better more you get out of it I suppose if you want to sit back and just watch the videos heaps of information there and you'll probably get something out of it you will um but the community side is just as important I think as well to engage with people that understand where you are where you're going give you a helping hand along the way and encouragement and support.

SPEAKER_03 28:29

100% so don't just join but get involved right yes yes oh you simplify it so well don't you no wonder you're a coach. Been doing this for a long time yeah no I agree with you though um getting involved it not just kind of fills that gap that void of feeling understood by the people who get it but it allows you to have accountability on your journey as well. So it increases the results you get as well so yeah I totally agree. Yeah I love it. Well before we wrap up um is there anything else that you were hoping to share or that you think that people need to hear before we end I think that's probably all from me.

SPEAKER_00 29:12

I think I've talked enough I'm losing my voice. I just I just I can't praise you enough you and your team the group the people in the community like I said I've never felt so uh supported and I didn't realize how isolated I have been and having the support just makes it so much easier so much so much easier and if you have an issue I'm starting to now go oh my husband doesn't get it and usually I just sit here and get frustrated but now I just jump on and go blah blah blah blah and it's off my chest which is great there's always somebody out there in that community that will like it or have a comment or something and I'm thinking yep okay someone else has felt this as well so I'm not alone so it's it's it's great it's just wonderful. I can't stop saying that I'm really sorry but I just haven't come across anything like this before.

SPEAKER_03 30:13

I'm happy to hear that and I want to add to that I'm proud of you. I mean as much as we can teach you it it comes down to you doing it right and you actually using the information and implementing it. So let's say I'm proud of your efforts because you have been involved you stepped in and stepped up right and because of your efforts you're seeing massive success. So proud of you truly kudos and uh yeah I can't wait to see what we accomplish next and what you're gonna get up to.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

Yeah yeah keep keep an eye on that one.

SPEAKER_03 30:44

Yeah yeah and someone I wanted to thank you for your time today and coming on sharing a bit of your story. I know it's inspiring to people to hear what's possible after a lot of us were told you can't control it. You know uh for those who are watching there's a free training that maybe even Simone might have watched when she first joined uh we actually put together kind of an intro to blood sugar formulas what it all looks like and of course you can chat with the team see if it makes sense to get some help that's for free you can check it out at diabetesinaction.com so we'll link it up in the description but uh again Simone thank you so much I'm so proud of you and so excited for what's next.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

Appreciate it thanks Matt thanks for having a chat and I'll catch you around somewhere in warrior tribe world.

SPEAKER_03 31:27

There we go. And everybody else thanks for hanging out and uh don't forget to check out the free trading see you there.